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Poster: Purple Gel Date: Sep 11, 2010 11:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hell in a Bucket

Joan and Mickey were an item in '81.

She was also, or so the story I heard goes, the inspiration for "Hell In A Bucket". Apparently in an interview she had said something to the effect that the Grateful Dead were going to hell in a bucket and the song was in response to that. She also was reportedly the inspiration for Dylan's "Positively 4th Street". She must be quite the character to have inspired 2 such negative tunes.... must suck to be her (or her boyfriend)

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Sep 11, 2010 12:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hell in a Bucket

This is Dolgushkin's review of 12 - 12 - 81 ,

"I thought the JBaez set was good , but it became clear that the Dead wanted to cut loose behind her ,and she thought they should be good little boys and be her back-up band. .... After this we got a first set . I've never heard a electric Deep Elem before , and Cold Rain was RIPPIN'! "

http://www.archive.org/details/gd81-12-12.nak300.vernon.14011.sbeok.shnf

edit - a partial review by Mary Eisenhart from 12 - 31 - 81 .
" Baez makes something of a flourish (" Maestro") introducing Garcia's solo - a reference to ' 12 - 12 ', which she had unceremoniously cut his solo off , causing him not to return to the stage for the encore . "


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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Sep 12, 2010 7:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hell in a Bucket

In an interview?!? Now, THAT would sure be interesting to read, if that's really true. Seems kind of out of character (in public, anyway), but who knows.

Interesting on Positively 4th Street. But it seems like everyone who ever crossed paths with Dylan at the time was supposedly the inspiration for that. I tend not to think that songwriters are so literal as to be thinking of One Specific Person. A phrase gets inspired by one person, another phrase by another person, then it sort of combines and grows and takes on a life of its own. Like any kind of good creative writing.

From what I've read, I gather that from Mickey's perspective Joan Baez was rather depressive. From her perspective, I have no idea -- but, well, the GD in the early 80s ... if she DID think "hell in a bucket," was she wrong, LOL?






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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Sep 12, 2010 8:41am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hell in a Bucket

I guess it's like Dylan believing he was the inspiration for Diamonds and Rust, only to find out from Joan that he wasn't.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Sep 12, 2010 10:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hell in a Bucket

" I guess it's like Dylan believing he was the inspiration for Diamonds and Rust, only to find out from Joan that he wasn't. "

Diamonds and Rust was written in 75, Positively 4th ST was 65

And Diamonds and Rust IS totally about Dylan. Not inly is it obvious but she has said so in interviews

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Poster: Reade Date: Sep 12, 2010 8:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hell in a Bucket

While obviously it could have been both, I believe the Dylan tune she is most associated with being the inspiration for is "Queen Jane Approximtely."